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How should the average person weigh economic responsibility against the health risks associated with opening the economy? Are there ways we can help both without them negatively impacting one another?

Chris Kemp, M.S.:

I think, when possible, we should mitigate the health risks first, and then find ways to protect economic interests. Make good choices and find new ways to spend money: order curbside pick-up from restaurants, support your favorite brewery from home, buy from your favorite vendors online, purchase gift cards from businesses you'd like to support. Remember, you're much more valuable to the economy if you survive the pandemic.

Alison Bernstein, Ph.D.:

Wear masks, wash your hands, stay home if you can so that those who have to go out are safer. 

The more we do this, the more economic activity can continue. 

The more frequent and larger our outbreaks, the chance of needing another lockdown goes up, which is bad for the economy. 

We did not need to be in this economic or public health situation. The fact that this is where we are 3-4 months in is due to a failure to act, a failure to communicate and a failure to care. It did not have to be this way.

Monday 06.29.20
Posted by Lisa Hayes
 

Why is testing important? What are the benefits of testing to the overall national Covid-19 response and strategy?

Joe Patterson, Ph.D.:

Other than personal responsibilities, such as wearing a mask, self-health assessments, isolation if needed, and minimizing potential points of exposure, testing and contact tracing are the most important things we can do.

Testing and detecting infected individuals early on, before they can spread COVID-19, is the best we can do without a vaccine or viable treatments. If we can detect the virus early and limit spread, we can start to contain and isolate hotspots across the country. This will also hopefully allow for resources to be diverted to these hotspots and hospitals in the area to prepare for a potential influx of COVID-19 patients.   

Monday 06.29.20
Posted by Lisa Hayes
 

What is the ideal testing scenario for the U.S.? How could we scale up from what we’re doing now to what the ideal scenario is?

What is the ideal testing scenario for the U.S.? How could we scale up from what we’re doing now to what the ideal scenario is? Are you worried about federal funding for testing ending on June 30?

Joe Patterson, Ph.D.:

In a perfect world, you would test everyone weekly, whether they are symptomatic or not, and alert them of their COVID-19 status. If positive, you would have them and those who have been in contact self-isolate for a few weeks. In this scenario, there would need to be job protection, financial compensation for hardships due to not working, and food/other supplies delivered to their homes so they don’t have to leave quarantine. We know that this would never happen in the U.S., since we have already seen people arming themselves and marching on the state Capitol over haircuts. 

Realistically, the best we can do is increase testing and enhanced screening around the country for those who want it. This endeavor would need to involve hospitals, clinics, and local universities that have the resources to perform these tests. I would say, have anyone that is symptomatic immediately get a clinical test, and those who have no symptoms of COVID-19 can go through an enhanced screening [testing] process. The best way to screen as many people as possible and cut down on cost is to move to a pooling method of testing, where multiple people would be tested in a single assay. If a pool tests positive, the individual or individuals positive from the pool would be identified. This would work best with groups that are in continuous contact with each other, such as coworkers, students, etc. The key thing is that we need to do something. Sticking our heads in the sand and hoping it will just magically go away is not an option.  

As for the loss of federal funding on June 30, it is very concerning. One of the worst things that can be done is reduced testing for COVID-19. 

Monday 06.29.20
Posted by Lisa Hayes
 

President Trump says that cases are going up because the U.S. does more testing than any other country. Is it true that rising numbers of Covid-19 nationwide are attributable only to more tests?

Joe Patterson, Ph.D.:

Blaming the increase in COVID-19 cases on testing is like saying there are more stars in the night sky when your eyes aren’t closed. There is an increase in the number of hospitalizations across the country due to COVID-19. Increased testing did not cause the increase in hospitalization, COVID-19 did. What increased testing does is put a name to the reason for the hospitalizations, help individuals and states prepare for what to expect, inform our understanding about the virus and disease, and hopefully lead to self-isolation of individuals who came in contact with the person who tests positive.

I think rather than blame increased testing, we should be looking at failures in personal responsibility present in the country, such as the resistance to wearing masks, engaging in high-risk behaviors, unnecessary travel, attending mass gatherings where proper social distancing is not enforced, and forgetting the pandemic is still here and going strong. I feel these are the real underlying cause of the increase in cases.

Monday 06.29.20
Posted by Lisa Hayes
 

Are antibody tests accurate? What is known about immunity?

Joe Patterson, Ph.D.:

It’s important to remember what an antibody test is and isn’t, and how it works. An antibody test is not a test to determine if the individual currently has COVID-19, but rather, can give insight into if the individual has had COVID-19.

In an antibody test, a small amount of blood from the individual is used in the assay [an assay is an analysis or test]. The blood will be added to a substrate or media that contains a COVID-19 specific antigen or target for the antibody to bind to. This is followed by a chemical reaction with the bound antibody to determine if the individual has developed antibodies against COVID-19 due to a previous infection.   

Antibody tests “can” be accurate. For the test to work properly, the person being tested has to have antibodies present at a sufficient level. The test also needs to be specific enough for antibodies against COVID-19, but not so specific that natural variation in how antibodies are produced from person to person cause a false negative. Unfortunately, there are many antibody tests out there that have received emergency use authorization, but are not very accurate.

Regarding immunity to future COVID-19 infections, more data needs to be collected. Every now and then, you hear a story of a person that has tested positive for COVID-19 twice, months apart. Whether this is really the case, or one of the tests was a false positive or lingering infection at a low titer is present is hard to say. There is just a lot that we still need to learn. 

For more about antibodies and antibody testing, see the questions linked here.

Monday 06.29.20
Posted by Lisa Hayes
 

Could you explain how antibody tests for Covid-19 work, their accuracy, and their availability? Are they important in the overall Covid-19 strategy?

Nick Kanaan, Ph.D.:

Simply put, antibody tests are set up to show a positive signal if a patient’s blood sample contains antibodies against COVID-19. [Scroll down for a definition of antibody.]

Basically, the parts of the virus that the person’s antibodies bind to are used as bait to catch the person’s antibodies that specifically target COVID-19. Then the caught antibodies are detected, producing either a positive signal if indeed COVID-19 antibodies are present, or negative if the blood did not contain COVID-19 antibodies.

The sensitivity and specificity can vary from test to test depending on the platform used. For example, antibody tests that resemble pregnancy tests (typically called lateral flow tests) are generally less sensitive than other, more sophisticated forms of antibody tests, but they are very rapid and can be done on-site. More sophisticated forms of antibody tests are more sensitive and specific, but they take longer and typically require some specialized equipment. Depending on the antibody that the test detects, the sensitivity and specificity can vary from a moderate (~70%) to high (~100%) levels.

A large number of tests have hit the market recently, and this is a very active area of on-going research. Ideally, an antibody test will be relatively rapid and easy to implement, while also showing high sensitivity and specificity.

Antibody tests will likely be an instrumental component of the strategy for COVID-19. One difference between antibody tests and the nasal swab/saliva tests that detect the virus’s genes is that the antibodies will likely maintain a presence for some amount of time after the virus is gone. This can help to identify people that were infected. The exact amount of time that antibodies are present post-infection is still actively being investigated by many groups and some recent research suggests they may not remain in the body as long as initially thought. Much of our understanding of COVID-19 continues to shift as more research is being conducted daily across the globe.  

What is an antibody?

Nick Kanaan:

An antibody is a protein (also referred to as an immunoglobulin) found in the blood that the body’s immune system creates to grab onto foreign substances, such as viruses like COVID-19, and help remove them from the body. Antibodies against COVID-19 are important in two ways. First, they are part of the body’s natural response to help fight off the infection of COVID-19. Second, they can be used to test whether a patient was infected with COVID-19 since antibodies stick around in the body even after the virus has subsided. The second feature is one of the advantages of serological or blood-based COVID-19 antibody tests.

Further clarification on antibody tests:

WebMD:

An antibody test is a screening for things called antibodies in your blood. Your body makes these when it fights an infection, like COVID-19. The same thing happens when you get a vaccine, like a flu shot. That’s how you build immunity to a virus.

You may also hear it called a serology test.

The antibody test isn’t checking for the virus itself. Instead, it looks to see whether your immune system -- your body’s defense against illness -- has responded to the infection.

Resources:

Flawed COVID-19 antibody tests shipped without FDA review: A 60 Minutes investigation has found that federal officials knew many COVID-19 antibody testing kits had flaws, but allowed them to enter the U.S. market. June 28, 2020

What to know before getting a COVID-19 antibody test: Doctors tell 60 Minutes that patients should get multiple antibody tests to ensure an accurate result, but testing positive for antibodies may not mean prolonged, or any, immunity. June 28, 2020

CNN Health: Beware of fake coronavirus antibody tests, the FBI warns. June 29, 2020

New Cochrane review assesses how accurate antibody tests are for detecting COVID-19. June 25, 2020

The Guardian: I'm a viral immunologist. Here's what antibody tests for Covid-19 tell us. June 25, 2020

The Guardian: Antibody test accuracy lower during first 14 days of Covid-19 symptoms. June 25, 2020

The Telegraph: Coronavirus antibody tests could do more harm than good by offering false hope, review warns. June 25, 2020

Reuters: Many studies of COVID-19 antibody test accuracy fall short: review. June 25, 2020

FBI.gov: FBI warns of potential fraud in Covid-19 antibody testing. June 26, 2020

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Monday 06.29.20
Posted by Lisa Hayes
 

Could you talk about a realistic Covid-19 vaccine?

What do you see in terms of a realistic Covid-19 vaccine timeline, and what would a vaccine offer in terms of protection/immunity? How can it possibly be safe? I assume it’s being rushed through the process – is that right?

Nick Kanaan, Ph.D.:

I would defer to the experts on a timeline, and would reiterate what Dr. Fauci and others with appropriate expertise are saying – 1-1.5 years. Of course, we all want one as soon as possible!

The effectiveness of the vaccine is hard to predict with certainty. Some anti-viral vaccines have completely eradicated their disease, but others (like vaccines against the common flu) are only somewhat effective due to natural changes in the virus over time. Optimistically, a COVID-19 vaccine that completely eradicates the disease would be the jackpot. In lieu of that result, I would consider it a significant win for all of us if a vaccine could minimize the effects of the virus to a level that dramatically reduces the mortality rate.

How — and When — Can the Coronavirus Vaccine Become a Reality?

Below are excerpts from ProPublica’s article, written by Caroline Chen and posted on June 17, 2020.

Let me tell you this up front: If you’re imagining there’ll be one golden day when a vaccine is approved and the pandemic will be over — Finally! We can all crowd into one another’s living rooms and resume choir practice again — I’m afraid it won’t be quite like that. But it will be the beginning of the end.

On a vaccine’s effectiveness:

One lucky break COVID-19 vaccine developers have had is that this coronavirus hasn’t mutated in any significant way so far, including, crucially, the part that is most visible to the immune system, that spike protein. So long as that remains true, the vaccine they make should match up with the virus that our bodies will encounter in the real world, meaning it’ll likely work as intended. Given the stability seen so far in the coronavirus’s genetic sequence, “I am hopeful that when we do develop a vaccine, it will provide long-term protection,” Kartsonis said.

On vaccine safety:

When experimental vaccines are tested, they usually go through three phases of clinical trials. The first phase is the smallest and focuses on safety, making sure that the product doesn’t have any dangerous health effects. The second is a little larger, continuing to gather safety data while testing if the vaccine can induce an immune response, producing antibodies in participants. The third trial is the largest, and it needs to be big enough to confirm that the vaccine is actually effective in the real world.

“If the data were clear that in 20,000 people it appears to be safe and highly efficacious, then you should get the vaccine, because if you’re choosing not to get a vaccine, you’re choosing to risk getting a natural infection, which could be fatal.”

On current trials:

Moderna Therapeutics is currently expected to be the first U.S. manufacturer to start a phase 3 trial. Candidates by AstraZeneca and Johnson & Johnson will follow, according to The Wall Street Journal. Moderna’s trial is planned to begin in July and will enroll about 30,000 participants. 

The speed of the phase 3 trials depends on the rate of infection wherever people are enrolled. If there is a huge outbreak going on, people in the placebo group will get sick at a high rate, and the trial may be over in a matter of a few months. If infection rates are very low, however, the trial could drag on for months on end. Moderna hasn’t announced its trial sites yet, but it will have sites “well dispersed” in the U.S. and is considering international trials as well, according to a spokesman.

On availability:

Typically, drugmakers will manufacture only enough doses for clinical trials and make sure the trials are successful before starting mass production. Manufacturing at risk means that developers will instead begin mass production at the same time as clinical trials, which means that if a vaccine fails in human trials, they’ll have to throw away all the product they’ve made, wasting money and materials. But if a product is successful, it means that the minute its trial is completed, there’ll be millions of doses ready to go.

Manufacturing at a massive scale is no simple task. “If we’re going to immunize 300 million people in the U.S. — we don’t even do that with the flu vaccine every year — we need a lot of glass vials, we have to make sure we have printing supplies and paper to make the labels and package inserts, we need stoppers for the vials, and they all need to be made to a very high standard. All this in addition to the raw materials to the vaccine itself,” Schaffner said.

Pfizer and its partner, German company BioNTech, are planning to have a few million doses ready by the end of the year, and hundreds of millions of doses available in 2021, even though the first of their four vaccine candidates just began its first early-stage human trials in May.

There will need to be a prioritization, with the vaccine given first to those who need it most: essential workers and the elderly. 

Distribution is going to be a massive challenge. “There’s a need to have in place a mechanism to ensure people who should get the vaccine get it,” Dr. Walter Orenstein, associate director of Emory University’s vaccine center, said. “We won’t have 8 billion vaccines. So who should get priority, and how should it get delivered? We will need to remove barriers to access, including cost and distance.”

Monday 06.29.20
Posted by Lisa Hayes
 

Is it possible to be reinfected with the novel coronavirus?  

Jack Lipton, Ph.D.:

If what we know about viruses applies to the novel coronavirus, then the risk of reinfection is primarily associated with either viral mutations or time since your prior infection.

Think about the flu. You can become reinfected with the flu every year. The flu frequently mutates, or changes*, each season. As a result, your body may not recognize it when it comes back around. Think of your body’s immune system like the face on a “Wanted” poster.  Those posters are your immune system’s memory of prior infection, and it keeps information to protect it against a future infection.  If the face or description on the Wanted poster doesn’t accurately match the criminal, law enforcement might not notice when they come back into town.  Similarly, your body’s immune system may not react to a mutated form of a virus it has already been infected with if it looks too different from before. If this happens with the novel coronavirus, it is possible that people could become reinfected. The flu shot is given every year because of changes in strains and mutations that you may encounter each flu season. Based on the data so far, there have been mutations in the novel coronavirus, but it seems as though those changes have been infrequent.

The other challenge for reinfection is time.  Think about those “Wanted” posters again, but this time think about them bleaching or fading away in the sun.  Your body produces antibodies to a virus to fight off infection. Over time, your antibody response may slowly wane until your body is not able to mount a sufficient response to prevent a new infection, even for the exact same virus. This is the reason why you have to get booster shots of certain vaccines.

*As it reproduces — makes copies of itself — random errors occur in the copies, and those copies reproduce. The flu virus mutates frequently, so the chances that any of those mutations will be meaningful is higher.

What about the reports of people who tested positive for Covid-19, then negative, then positive again?

Reports of a person testing positive, negative, and positive again are from tests performed on the same person over several weeks. Like everything, we don’t know for sure the reason for this right now, but it’s likely not a reinfection. It seems more likely that it has to do with two factors: the sensitivity of the PCR test and the qualities of the sample.

Imagine that you need a test, and you go to a testing site. The most common form of the SARS-CoV-2 test is done using a nasopharyngeal swab. The person performing the test — let’s say, Bill — swabs the back of your nasal cavity, which drains into the back of your throat. It’s not that comfortable, and you might have to work hard to hold steady for the test. Bill will work as quickly as he can in order to get a sample. Whatever Bill is able to get onto the swab becomes our sample. We use a PCR machine to test that sample for the virus.

When the infection begins, the respiratory tract is filled with viral particles, and it’s very easy for us to detect that with PCR. Let’s pretend your sample is positive for SARS-CoV-2.

As the disease progresses in your body over time, the virus is cleaned out by your immune system, and viral levels decrease. You get another test, this time by Sophía. Just like the first time, you might have to work hard to hold steady for the test, and Sophía will work as quickly as she can in order to get a sample. This time, the viral particles may be fewer on the sample, or maybe the particles in your nasal cavity weren’t in the spot Sophía was able to swab, since they’re no longer filling your respiratory tract like they were at the start of the infection.

A PCR has limits in its ability to detect very small amounts of virus, using the types of samples that are commonly used for this test. So over the course of the many weeks the virus could potentially be detected on a PCR machine, your tests might come back as positive, negative, and positive again. This may look like a re-emergence of infection, but it’s really a combination of what we get on your sample and the limits of a PCR’s ability to detect low levels of virus.

From Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health:

Reinfection is always a possibility with a viral infection, particularly if you have a subclinical infection and don’t mount much of an immune response against it. Reinfection is also possible within the window after the first infection and before you develop antibodies. That window can vary from a couple of weeks to a few months, depending on how much your immune system was triggered.

We’ve now got a good population of people who have recovered from the virus. Serum samples from those patients can allow us to time exactly when they begin to develop antibodies and when they develop sufficient titers and neutralizing antibodies. This will help us determine what the window is for protection.

Before your immune system returns to normal, you can be infected by not just this virus, but by regular colds and flu. A couple of months may be a reasonable window of recovery, based on what we know right now.

Rachel Graham, PhD, is an assistant professor in the Department of Epidemiology in the UNC Gillings School of Global Public Health. She began actively studying coronaviruses just prior to the SARS-CoV pandemic in 2002–2003.

Monday 06.29.20
Posted by Lisa Hayes
 

What are super spreaders and how can they affect the trajectory of an outbreak?

From Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health:

Rather than using the term super spreaders (a person who infects a large number of people), we should think of them as super spreading events. Maybe a person is at the right time of infection and at the mall. Typhoid Mary infected many people because she was a cook.

Part of the reason we stopped SARS is that a lot of super spreading was happening in health care settings and when people really got their act together in terms of infection control and biocontainment, it nipped the epidemic in the bud.

Super spreading events have the largest influence an outbreak’s trajectory early on. If there’s only a few cases and one person then infects 10 others, it can make it start strong. Once an epidemic gets going and has 100 to 200 cases or more, the “law of large numbers” takes over—and it stops mattering so much.

Justin Lessler is an associate professor of Epidemiology at the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health.

Monday 06.29.20
Posted by Lisa Hayes
 

Could you explain what is meant by “R value,” and why it’s important to our understanding of Covid-19?

Patrick Bardill, Ph.D.:

R stands for current reproduction number, and is a measure of how contagious a disease is.

R is the average number of people a person with the disease will infect before they recover or die.

For example, an R value of 5 means that, on average, each person with a disease infects five other people. If the R value is below 1, the number of cases of the disease should drop. If the R value is above 1 the number of cases of a disease will increase. 

 

Note that both biological properties of an infectious agent as well as the behavior of people in an affected area influence the R value. Thus, it is possible for the exact same virus to have different R values in different areas depending on how people interact.

R can change over the course of an outbreak as people gain immunity and interventions change, as well. This is important with COVID-19, as practices such as scrupulous hygiene and social distancing can and have lowered the R value. 

Like any disease, the R value of SARS-CoV-2 has varied. Before public health interventions in a variety of places, the R value was as high as 3 or 4. With interventions such as self-isolation of the sick and social distancing, the R value has been brought below 1 in some places. 

tags: terms, R value, contagious, infectious
Monday 06.29.20
Posted by Lisa Hayes
 

Could you offer an up-to-date understanding of Covid-19 immunity?

Patrick Bardill, Ph.D.:

Scientists are still trying to understand immunity to SARS-CoV-2. Because this is a new virus, we aren’t exactly sure of the key parameters of immunity, such as the length of time a person is immune after having the virus or if it is possible to not develop immunity. However, SARS-CoV-2 is a coronavirus and we do know some things about immunity to coronaviruses in general. We can use that information to make some baseline guesses. With other human coronaviruses, people develop immunity for about two years after infection. At this point, it seems that people do mount immune responses to SARS-CoV-2 and, based on other coronaviruses, probably have some short-term immunity, but we do not know this for certain and we do not know yet how long that immunity might last. 

Jack Lipton, Ph.D.:

We’ll only know with time. A year from now, we’ll only know if people who have it now are immune for one year, based on research. Everything else is speculation based on other human coronaviruses, which is very helpful, but not certain.

tags: immunity
Monday 06.29.20
Posted by Lisa Hayes
 

How safe is it to work a 12-hour day wearing a mask?

Alison Bernstein, Ph.D.:

Masks are not dangerous and are safe to wear. Any reports of masks’ limited air flow are false.

But I think by “safe” this question is asking if a mask at work will protect you from coronavirus. This very much depends on what you do for work.

For this answer, I’m talking about cloth masks since that is what most people have access to right now. You are protected by the masks of your co-workers, customers, and other people you interact with. If you wear a mask and they don’t, you are not protected from them. If everyone in your workplace wears a mask and adjustments can be made to maintain physical distancing and good hygiene practices are implemented, this reduces your risk as much as possible. Certain occupations and jobs are more conducive to implementing these practices.

Monday 06.29.20
Posted by Lisa Hayes
 

What is the average person’s responsibility when professionals aren’t using their masks correctly, or aren’t using masks or sanitization practices at all?

What is the average person’s responsibility when professionals aren’t using their masks correctly, or aren’t using masks or sanitization practices at all? I don’t know all of the laws and rules off the top of my head for each industry, and to be honest I’m a little weirded out by asking a server to put on a mask, or pull it over their nose, etc., but I see this issue constantly.

Alison Bernstein, Ph.D.:

This is an ethical question, not a science question, so I will just provide my opinion. Personally, I would leave and tell them why. If we went to a restaurant to get take out and they were not masked, I would not get food from there again and would tell them why. If I went to a store where the staff was not masked, I would do the same. If you are in a place without a mask mandate from your local or state government, this is about all that is in your power to do. If there is a mask mandate, you have a bit more on your side to remind them of the law. 

The best way around this, in my opinion, is to take enforcement of masking out of the hands of individuals and pass mask requirements and implement fines for non-compliance. I’m not sure about the legal issues surrounding passing such laws, though.

Chris Kemp, M.S.:

We all have a role to play in combating SARS-CoV-2. The correct approach is to wear a mask always when inside buildings (except your own home), wash your hands often, maintain social distance, and don't touch your face/mouth/nose/eyes. If a server isn't wearing a mask or wearing it improperly, either tell them to fix it, or leave the business. Those are really the only two options. Contact the restaurants after leaving to tell owners their staff is not wearing masks properly.

Monday 06.29.20
Posted by Lisa Hayes
 

What do the terms “high-risk” and “vulnerable populations” indicate?

Alison Bernstein, Ph.D.:

High risk refers to people who are more likely to become severely ill if they are infected. For COVID, this is older adults and people with underlying medical conditions. 

According to the CDC, people of any age with certain underlying medical conditions are at increased risk for severe illness from COVID-19. These include:

1.     Chronic kidney disease

2.     COPD (chronic obstructive pulmonary disease)

3.     Immunocompromised state (weakened immune system) from solid organ transplant

4.     Obesity (body mass index [BMI] of 30 or higher)

5.     Serious heart conditions, such as heart failure, coronary artery disease, or cardiomyopathies

6.     Sickle cell disease

7.     Type 2 diabetes mellitus

8.     Children who are medically complex, who have neurologic, genetic, metabolic conditions, or who have congenital heart disease are at higher risk for severe illness from COVID-19 than other children.

 

However, COVID-19 is a new disease. Currently there are limited data and information about the impact of underlying medical conditions and whether they increase the risk for severe illness from COVID-19. Based on what we know at this time, people with the following conditions might be at an increased risk for severe illness from COVID-19:

1.     Asthma (moderate-to-severe)

2.     Cerebrovascular disease (affects blood vessels and blood supply to the brain)

3.     Cystic fibrosis

4.     Hypertension or high blood pressure

5.     Immunocompromised state (weakened immune system) from blood or bone marrow transplant, immune deficiencies, HIV, use of corticosteroids, or use of other immune weakening medicines

6.     Neurologic conditions, such as dementia

7.     Liver disease

8.     Pregnancy

9.     Pulmonary fibrosis (having damaged or scarred lung tissues)

10.  Smoking

11.  Thalassemia (a type of blood disorder)

12.  Type 1 diabetes mellitus

 

Depending on the context, vulnerable populations in health care and research includes the economically disadvantaged, racial and ethnic minorities, the uninsured, low-income children, the elderly, the homeless, those with human immunodeficiency virus (HIV), and those with other chronic health conditions, including severe mental illness, children, prisoners, those with cognitive impairment. Some of these populations are also at high risk for severe cases of COVID-19. Some of these populations are also more likely to be exposed for a wide range of sociological and economic reasons.`                                                                         

 

Resource: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/need-extra-precautions/people-at-increased-risk.html

Monday 06.29.20
Posted by Lisa Hayes
 

What language can we give our kids to help them navigate those pressured situations when family and friends aren’t following the same rules?

What language can we give our kids to help them navigate those pressured situations when family and friends aren’t following the same rules? My kids are strong and smart, but I can’t help worrying about peer pressure once everyone is back to school.

Chris Kemp, M.S.:

I agree. It's difficult and I'm not sure there's an easy answer. Humans (especially children) are inherently social. This is what allowed the pandemic to develop in the first place. I think we need to keep encouraging our kids to be smart and thoughtful and to be the leaders in their communities by making good choices.

Alison Bernstein, Ph.D.:

This page from UAB has some specific recommendations about talking to kids about masks: https://www.uab.edu/news/youcanuse/item/11321-tips-for-children-wearing-masks-during-a-pandemic

 

About preparing your child to wear masks in public, they write:

Before heading out in public, it is important to practice wearing the mask at home before you actually need to wear it. According to Smith, this will help the child get used to wearing the mask and learn how to wear it properly. A child may find covering their mouth and hiding part of their face very frightening, so caretakers may have to explain it a few times.  

“Be OK with repetitive questions, and give them time to adjust,” Smith said. “Give them a mask to play with, as it may help decrease their fears.” 

 

This Urgent Cares page provides language as well:
https://www.lifespan.org/lifespan-living/wearing-face-masks-and-how-explain-it-kids

The mask is a way to help stop the spread of the coronavirus. Everyone is being asked to take steps to prevent spreading the virus from person to person.  Physically distancing is one way to accomplish this, which means maintaining six feet of distance from others. We are all becoming aware of how stores are marking the floor/ground to help remind us and ensure appropriate physical distance. However, when you are in public places it may not be possible to keep that far apart from others. You may pass closely or interact with others in grocery stores, at gas stations, or in the park.  In those cases, it makes sense to have a mask on, as well as do your best to physically distance.   

 

Unfortunately I am not seeing anything about dealing with the peer pressure piece of this. But in my experience as a parent, I can offer some thoughts. For my kids, we will be tying this into some of our important Jewish values, like showing kindness to others, protecting people who are more vulnerable than you, and working to make your world better. We will also frame this as part of our responsibility within our community. I don’t know if masks will be required; I don’t know what compliance will look like in school even if it is mandatory. All I can do is work with my kids so they know why WE wear masks and be clear in our expectations that they wear them. We will also talk to them about what do about friends who don’t wear masks and have them practice these conversations, so they are using their own words.

We have shared some resources on SciMoms about talking to kids about the pandemic in general: 
https://scimoms.com/coping-with-coronavirus/

  • Remember that our kids can hear us talking about the pandemic, and they notice our behavior, including how their caregiver is stressed and glued to the news on their phone. 

  • Be careful about how you talk about COVID-19 in front of your kids. Explain social distancing in an age-appropriate manner.

  • Help your kids focus on the positive. For example, encourage kids to think about what they are grateful for each day. 

  • Establish and maintain a daily routine. This will look different for every family but maintaining a schedule and some semblance of normalcy can be important for kids. SciMom Alison has found this to be key for her own well-being and her kids, especially her 6 year old son. Her schedule isn’t very detailed but it helps her and her husband get some work done and not hear the dreaded “I’m bored.” “It’s to the point now, where if we don’t follow the schedule, my son gets frustrated that he isn’t doing all his activities. He is keeping us on task!”

  • Identify projects that children can focus on, especially things that help others. For example, decorating your front windows or chalking your sidewalk with a friendly message can be a fun distraction and spread (and receive) good cheer.

  • As always, it is important to model positive behavior for our kids and offer lots of love, affection, and comfort. We find that these things also happen to help us feel better too. SciMom Anastasia says that taking time for extra cuddles has been really important: “my daughter, spouse, and I are all craving extra connection right now.”

 Here’s a good resource from the AAP on parenting in a pandemic: https://www.healthychildren.org/English/health-issues/conditions/COVID-19/Pages/Parenting-in-a-Pandemic.aspx

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Monday 06.29.20
Posted by Lisa Hayes
 

I need language for keeping my unconcerned colleagues vigilant as we return to work.

Jack Lipton, Ph.D.:

You may be able to make fun of your own vigilance — for example, “I’m a total germaphobe, and I’m not going to give it up!”

You may be able to appeal to their business sense. “We really don’t want to get a reputation for being less careful.”

You may be able to appeal to their desire to get the economy in shape. “Once people start seeing that businesses are being cautious and taking preventative measures, they’ll be more likely to start shopping again.”

You could point to the many videos and photos people are posting online. “I really don’t want to be caught in someone’s picture or video working without a mask.”

Consider what your colleagues value, and use that as your starting point.

Alison Bernstein, Ph.D.:

“Uncle Sam wants YOU to wear a mask.” This is in jest, but what is missing from the conversation is an attempt to instill a sense of civic duty and responsibility to your community to keep each other safe. This pandemic is a clear case where individual action is insufficient to address the problem. The only way to protect myself is to protect you and the only way for you to protect yourself is to protect me.

The reason this is the case goes back to the R value. If the virus can’t get from one host to the next, we stop it in its tracks and R goes down. The minute we stop being vigilant, the virus finds new hosts and R goes back up. This is what is currently happening to the R value in Michigan. Given that people can be infected and infect others without realizing it because they feel ok, the virus will continue to lurk in our population unless we all wear masks, wash hands often and practice physical distancing. 

We are doing as well as we are in Michigan because of the measures we have taken, but if we relax those measures without wearing masks, washing hands often and practicing physical distancing, it will all be for nothing.

The pandemic is not over. In many states, cases are starting to go up, are still going up, or are going back up. Even in NY and MI which have flattened the curve, the curve will go back up if we are not mindful and vigilant in our mask wearing, hygiene and distancing as we open things back up. Even when curves are flattened, the virus will still be with us. A flattened curve does not mean we have eradicated the virus. To keep the curve flat, we must remain diligent.

Monday 06.29.20
Posted by Lisa Hayes
 

I could use some language for talking to people who don’t follow the same policies that we do.

I could use some language for handling people who come over or who we run into, who don’t follow the same policies that we do. I’m thinking about the higher-pressure situations, like when my loving yet conspiracy theorist, always-right parents stop by. It seems like I would have to constantly be on their backs – and making everyone very uncomfortable – while we’re together.

Alison Bernstein, Ph.D.:

In the science of communication, we talk about finding shared values. Maybe it’s something as simple as “please keep me safe because you care about me and I care about you.” I would focus less on debunking specific ideas that they have and focus on what behavior you want them to adopt or change. 

As an example, when my kids were born, we felt very strongly that everyone they interacted with for the first two months should have up-to-date DTaP and flu vaccines. We had to make a clear statement that we wouldn’t allow any visitor who did not have these. We also had to have uncomfortable conversations with family members who smoke. Some of these conversations were contentious but we were not willing to compromise on the safety of our children. 

I think it takes setting clear limits and boundaries, even with those we love the most. It means being willing to accept that people might not be willing to comply with your request. We are not going to any place or interacting with other people who are unwilling to wear a mask and physical distance. If the people I interact with do those things while I interact with them, I worry less about what choices they might be making in other situations.

Monday 06.29.20
Posted by Lisa Hayes
 

How is it that Covid-19 affects some socio-economic groups and cultural communities more than others?

Irving Vega, Ph.D.:

COVID-19 unrooted health and healthcare disparities in our society due to socio-economic status.  These disparities are founded on social determinants of health, which are driven by a lack of access to affordable health insurance, the impact of institutionalized racism, and a disparity in quality education and educational opportunities. 

The result of social determinants of health is poor physical and mental health outcomes.  Therefore, those at low socio-economic status tend to have higher prevalence of metabolic disorders and cardiovascular disease, which seem to increase the risk for worse health outcomes in COVID-19 infected individuals.

Monday 06.29.20
Posted by Lisa Hayes
 

What needs to happen to lessen the disparities in differentially exposed communities?

Irving Vega, Ph.D.:

We need to be better in recognizing how to protect everyone equally.  In general, the government should re-define “disaster relief” to add a provision that includes health emergencies such as a pandemic. Covid-19 showed to all how ill-prepared we (both the government and the public) were to handle the social aspects related to a healthcare emergency. Part of redefining disaster relief includes:

  • Developing social assistance for those more in need

    • This requires a government re-structure, where agencies that haven't been involved — such as the social security system — become activated to provide assistance based on the respective contribution of each individual. This should be supported by FEMA in order to avoid straining the social security system. 

    • The Housing department should also mandate a freeze in all mortgages for those who lose their job during the emergency until they find a new job, or at least for a considerable time during the emergency. 

  • Recognizing work and food insecurity as a factor in decision making, by

    • Supporting food banks and food drives 

    • Acknowledging that the most vulnerable are overrepresented in part-time jobs that don't have benefits, and as a consequence require a program (emergency or otherwise) to supplement being underinsured or uninsured

  • Identifying and intervening in industries and services that put employees at higher risk

    • We should demand a federal effort to protect employees through strict safety parameters that have actual ramifications [versus recommendations — consider a statewide requirement to wear masks, but with no penalties or enforcement for not doing so]

    • The general public can use social media to give voice to those employees that are at risk due to lack of protective equipment or policies [calling out business that do not adequately protect their employees, for example]

  • Bringing testing closer to underserved communities — instead of “institutionalizing” testing, testing within healthcare institutions that traditionally have not provided service to all

    • This is what we were doing in my lab, and two months later the governor made an executive order to authorize community testing, allowing other healthcare providers to have general orders for testing

    • Community organizations could consider taking a step forward and working hand-on-hand with healthcare providers to provide areas for testing at their own parking lots or building depending of the available infrastructure

Monday 06.29.20
Posted by Lisa Hayes
 

How can I help communities with higher levels of Covid-19?

As a person who is not in a position of governmental, policy, or other type of influence, is there anything that I can do to help reduce the disparity or otherwise help those communities with higher levels of Covid-19 risk? I feel like just one person can’t possibly make a difference. 

Irving Vega, Ph.D.:

Speak up!  Differentially exposed individuals are within our community because of social determinants of health, and institutionalized discrimination.  We need to recognize our privileges and use them to give voice to underserved populations and be agents of change.  To do that, you need to educate yourself about social determinants of health, health equity, implicit biases and institutional racism. 

Resources:

  • Many Latinos Couldn’t Stay Home. Now Virus Cases Are Soaring in Their Communities.

  • The American Medical Association’s Covid-19 Health Equity Resource List

  • The Health Equity Initiative

  • National Congress of American Indians Resource List

  • Resources for Immigrants During the Coronavirus

  • The African American Policy Forum Resource List

  • AXIOS:  The coronavirus economy will devastate those who can least afford it  

  • The Colorado Trust: Pandemics Thrive on Inequality  

  • Centers for Disease Control and Prevention: Coronavirus: Resources for Homeless Shelters 

  • Nonprofit Quarterly: COVID-19: Using a Racial Justice Lens Now to Transform Our Future 

  • Health Affairs Blog: Health Justice Strategies To Combat COVID-19: Protecting Vulnerable Communities During A Pandemic 

  • Health Equity: Responding to Healthcare Disparities and Challenges With Access to Care During COVID-19

  • Health Equity Initiative: COVID-19 Is a Health Equity Issue 

  • Health Equity Initiative: Paid Sick Leave Policy and the Impact on Health Equity

  • Human Rights Watch: US: Address Impact of Covid-19 on Poor 

  • Kaiser Family Foundation: Key Facts about the Uninsured Population 

  • The Marshall Project: Tracking Prisons' Response to Coronavirus 

  • Pew Research Center: As coronavirus spreads which U.S. workers have paid sick leave - and which don't 

  • UN News: Racism and xenophobia are ‘contagious killers’ too 

  • World Economic Forum: Coronavirus: A pandemic in the age of inequality 

  • World Heart Federation: Preventing COVID-19 spread in poor areas

  • ReachMD: Not Just a Pandemic: Why COVID-19 Is a Health Equity Issue

  • Region 2 Public Health Training Center (PHTC): COVID19: Using a Health Equity and Human Rights Lens to Protect Vulnerable Populations during this Pandemic and Beyond 

Monday 06.29.20
Posted by Lisa Hayes
 
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